video poker flat betting

[PokerK1ng]

Does anyone have any idea or know how much someone has been up and down most by simply flat betting without increasing bet sizes in video poker.

im up few hundreds, but would like to know the highest varience and loosing drawdown that can happen in online video poker

 

[Triple B]

I think people are just confused by the relevance of the question.

What is the most someone has been down while "flat betting?" Losing everything.

What is the most someone has been up? I don't know... over a million dollars?

The variance will depend a lot more on what game(s) you are playing and the pay tables than the fact that you are "flat betting." So for the end result you are looking for, I think the question is the wrong one to be asking.

More important would be, which games and pay tables are you playing, and what is your bet amount? Are you well versed on proper strategy? Knowing these would help people to offer some insights.

 

[PokerK1ng]

well i meant units obviously, i should had mentioned it. Unit is the size you bet. If simply keeping it same. It doesn't matter really is it 1 p or 10. Im surprised it has won so much. It almost never happens. That's why i made the post is this some illusion and huge losses may happen even like this without increasing bet sizes.

I have read people mention this indeed about what games. Its the part that confuses me. They all are near/over 99 % what are available. So I'm not sure why people make big deal out of it. It doesnt seem to me make any significant difference.
Online the highest that is available for me are obvious jack better. There are no choice really which ones to play

 

[Triple B]

well i meant units obviously, i should had mentioned it. Unit is the size you bet. If simply keeping it same. It doesn't matter really is it 1 p or 10. Im surprised it has won so much. It almost never happens. That's why i made the post is this some illusion and huge losses may happen even like this without increasing bet sizes.

I have read people mention this indeed about what games. Its the part that confuses me. They all are near/over 99 % what are available. So I'm not sure why people make big deal out of it. It doesn't seem to me make any significant difference.
Online the highest that is available for me are obvious jack better. There are no choice really which ones to play

If you are betting at most 5 peso per deal on a 99% game, and it is single line, then you won't get up by much probably among all the swings. A royal flush would pay 2000 peso, so say a very very lucky person might get up 5000-10000 peso at some point?

You are talking about a game with a 99% return so unless there are other benefits/rewards it will not have a positive return in the long run.

People ask about the game because it does matter a great deal, especially when asking about variance. The variance on Jacks or Better will be a lot different than Double Double Bonus or Triple Double Bonus. In these games you will lose credits a lot more quickly until you hit a bigger win since there are more possible larger payouts than in Jacks or better, which only has the Royal Flush paying above 2500.

I'm not sure what your goals are, but if you are up a few hundred bucks in this scenario, the best advice is probably to cash out.

 

[PokerK1ng]

yes im aware of the double bonus games. Unfortunally online the sites dont offer these games. I have to settle what i can use.
im up few hundred units. The wins are mostly coming with 2 pair or flush at most. I calculated if professional players with maximum progressions have lost their bankroll which is recommended 3 times of royal flush then its equal to 100 units by flat betting.
Im not sure did i count correct way, but i guess time will tell do i win enough. You said its not possible to win long term. What are the payouts then at 101 % rtp video poker and are their only available in real casino vegas. I didnt find any differences about why 101 % can be long term winner and 99.56 % return are not

 

[Triple B]

yes im aware of the double bonus games. Unfortunally online the sites dont offer these games. I have to settle what i can use.
im up few hundred units. The wins are mostly coming with 2 pair or flush at most. I calculated if professional players with maximum progressions have lost their bankroll which is recommended 3 times of royal flush then its equal to 100 units by flat betting.
Im not sure did i count correct way, but i guess time will tell do i win enough. You said its not possible to win long term. What are the payouts then at 101 % rtp video poker and are their only available in real casino vegas. I didnt find any differences about why 101 % can be long term winner and 99.56 % return are not

It sounds like you need a better understanding of what RTP means.

If I were to give you 99 peso every time you handed me 100peso, what would happen if we continued this one million times?

If I were to give you 101 peso every time you handed me 100peso, what would happen if we continued this one million times?

That is of course a simplification.

In video poker, having "an edge" at 101% would also mean playing the game perfectly. In addition to this, it would depend on the games being fair. I'm not sure whether these statements apply to your situation or not.

 

[kamen]

Just using that term because that is what the casino uses. Yes is can be very costly to earn Free Play, but once you have it, your next session could be over 100 percent. Long term though, for instance at Mohegan when you have a certain level for a 100 buck free play award, at least for me, it adds 1.2 of one percent or so to my return. For instance, I need to run about 18,000 coin in to earn 100 in so called free play. However, on triple status point days, I only need to run about 6,000 through for the same 100 bucks. That adds 1.5 percent or so to my return. In that scenario, it is a good deal long term.

 

[David1977]

Just using that term because that is what the casino uses. Yes is can be very costly to earn Free Play, but once you have it, your next session could be over 100 percent. Long term though, for instance at Mohegan when you have a certain level for a 100 buck free play award, at least for me, it adds 1.2 of one percent or so to my return. For instance, I need to run about 18,000 coin in to earn 100 in so called free play. However, on triple status point days, I only need to run about 6,000 through for the same 100 bucks. That adds 1.5 percent or so to my return. In that scenario, it is a good deal long term.

Is that 100 for every 6,000 coin in? Or do they cap it at once for 6,000 and that's it?

 

[johnnybagel2019]

In my opinion, it depends what you're playing video poker for. If you are maintaining a bankroll or getting something from the casino that requires playthrough, flat betting is the way to go.

If you're wanting to win a big jackpot like you're playing the lottery, move your bet around a lot and bet in a volatile way. When I'm in lottery mode, I like betting really low short coined nickels for a while and doing big brief high denom bursts when it heats up or seems "overdue" (ha!).